Talk:Vermillion Gym/@comment-173.20.242.61-20120713033246

So I love how when people say "I defeated this gym with..." and then list pokemon that you can't get before the gym. When someone is looking for a good hint on moves or pokemon to use to help them get past the gym, they want something that they can USE. The earthquake idea is awesome Amir1998, but your using 5 pokemon that you cant get before this gym.

However, from what I can see, it appears that using the following Pokemon combo in with your party will help dramatically. (moyc=move of your choice)

Arcanine(red)/Ninetales(blue) - Levels 30-40 - Sunny Day/Solar Beam/Helping Hand/moyc

Nidoking/Nidoqueen - Levels 30-40 - Helping Hand/Thrash/Double Kick/Dig

Kadabra - Level 30+ - Psywave/Ally Switch/moyc/moyc

All three can pretty much hold their own on a NORMAL wave. However, all three will need help when a boss comes out. I can never make it past the Raichu wave so I can't say that this definately will work, it just HELPS. I'm still figuring out the other 3 pokemon to defeat the gym. I have noticed that ground type moves are the best in this gym (no d'uh right?) so moves like bulldoze and dig will help alot.